Tag-o-Rama 4

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Ahlir
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Why, yes. It is a tag.


The Iguana
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Certainly not; but powerful midgets, too.


RustyRed
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“Certainly not; but powerful midgets, too.”

Harrier tribally ratified theatrically bordering extrude basalt heated symmetries. Propellant computably rainless aborts nutty unskilled rucksack gleefulness assemblers.


The Iguana
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Precisely. QED.

…and don’t forget the eggs and vodka…and the fellow behind the curtain.


RustyRed
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PittsburghCheese terminal 2900 block of Smallman Street


RustyRed
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New Tag! with Marko82

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I look incredible.
Im in this big ass coat from that thrift shop down the road.


The Iguana
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9th & Bingham
Nicholas K. Studio/Gallery
40deg 25′ 47.0″
79deg 59′ 22.6″

2016-05-03_09-49-56

Marko82
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paulheckbert
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Bruced. 9th & Bingham


paulheckbert
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We’re past 36 hours, so by rule 2a, Iguana loses the tag (Sorry, Iguana…)

new tag

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The Iguana
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Call me silly, but @ph seems a bit confused…he claims to be being bruced or was he brucing me…which doesn’t follow from my reading of the definition if bruce and given the setting and getting times of that tag..then he posts another tag using the 36 hour rule…i would claim an improper bruce…and he never claimed the tag properly by the rule of 36, ie by claiming the tag itself
..but since no one cares about details …we’ll just move on…


The Iguana
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And Ill take back the tag as Gd wanted it…the old Whitaker Metals sign on 837 before the Rankin Bridge

2016-05-05_04-37-19

Ahlir
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Brucellosis is a disease of mainly cattle, swine, goats, sheep and dogs. The infection is transmitted to humans by animals through direct contact with infected materials like afterbirth or indirectly by ingestion of animal products and by inhalation of airborne agents. Consumption of raw milk and cheese made from raw milk (fresh cheese) is the major source of infection in man. [WHO]

Let’s be careful out there.


The Iguana
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I was disappointed that @ph didn’t allow rule #2b to be engaged: “This rule is intended to keep the game moving. If the overdue tag is posted before somebody grabs the reverted tag, then the new tag will stand. However, giving the overdue tag-holder a load of crap is highly encouraged.”

So I give you all a second chance–I want a load of crap; when the time expires. Show me what you’ve got. Be creative. And be sure to keep riding…me.

And it begs another question: Can @ph grab his tag back by invoking the rule of 36?


RustyRed
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If we could shift the focus of TOR a bit away from deliberately antagonizing one another and back towards a fun game, that would be awesome.


StuInMcCandless
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What is the current tag? Do we have one?


Marko82
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It’s the weekend, how about posting a tag.


The Iguana
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NEW TAG
I can’t take all the crap…

Maybe a bit hazy, but with eagle eyes you can see my bike…white framed and all

2016-05-07_08-14-06

The Iguana
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I just had a crazy idea. Given it’s the weekend, and all…nice weather…the tag is pretty easy….why not give some others a chance to enjoy the game and feel the rush…it’s always the same high rollers…let this tag be gotten by one who has not had a tag in two months…better if you’ve never had a tag…virgins are welcome….

And for the diehards..go for the tag to feed the compulsion if wish, just post it elsewhere …

…and keep riding…that’s the purpose of the game..’.


Steven
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I was disappointed that @ph didn’t allow rule #2b to be engaged:

I think you were the one with the option to invoke 2b.

You picked up a tag at May 3 2016 at 9:12pm, brucing Paul’s attempted pickup at May 5 2016 at 9:22am, but you didn’t post a new tag within 36 hours. Paul therefore was allowed to post a new tag.

You then had the option to post your own new tag, invoking rule 2b, before anyone got Paul’s tag, thereby invalidating Paul’s tag (and entitling you to the prescribed load of crap). But instead, you picked up Paul’s tag yourself. Once someone (even you) had picked up Paul’s tag, rule 2b was no longer an option for you.

Sadly, this means you’re not entitled to a load of crap, but I hope this pedantic rule explanation will do in its place. :-)


jonawebb
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Pedantry is always welcome.
But I really wish a newbie would pick up the tag, and post a new one. It’s such a beautiful day for tagging!


StuInMcCandless
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Somehow I don’t feel like dragging my bike 75 feet up a tree to get dive-bombed by enormous birds. Would it be OK to take a picture of the tree from about where your bike is?


paulheckbert
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google “Hays Eagles”, first link


jonawebb
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The rule is, your bike has to be in the same location–not the camera.


The Iguana
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I’ve tried to veer the rules discussion elsewhere when yuns whine about the banter…but you started it…sorry @rustyred

@jonawebb, I questioned this very point back at this tag

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which was on the Schenley Bridge as all hints pointed…@TeamDecaf ruled, “Set a new tag, Ahlir. Move on. “…and so it was. When I tagged the moon, it was also ignored. So what is the tag now…is the bike location( bridge, keeping-tabs, trail), the interesting sight (eaglets, moon). The RULE states, “– Find the tag and get a picture of your bike in the same location (as best as possible). “….BEST AS POSSIBLE–BEST is where the bike is–it don’t get any better…TO be Trumpish….you lose…the rules are bogus…Hey guys, quit whinining…and play…and RIDE…we don’t need no stinkin’ rules…tags are like porn–I know it when I see it…I’m adding Rule 8 (though it is really a corollary of Rule 6): Never quote the rules in the forum.


StuInMcCandless
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I guess it could be done, to bike out the Baldwin Trail and play with the positioning so that the bike ends up in the nest camera long view.


The Iguana
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@MusingStuInMcCanDMoreOrLess: You guess? The proof is in the pudding. You certainly had some pudding.
QED.

[I had a helluva time climbing the tree and fighting off mama and papa bear…and worrying about someone stealing my bike…but I’m a lizard…and the eggs had already hatched…]


Ahlir
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@Iggy: You need to relax. Really; you’ll live longer.
But let’s address your issues.

Yes, many of us would like to have a life defined by immutable rules. Not so much because we feel this is essential to survival, but because it provides structure and guidance to life.

But life is much more complicated and we implicitly accept that there are (many) exceptions. It’s difficult to codify them. As you might have suggested, Justice Potter Stewart’s suggestion is a good one. Maybe his thought was an early allusion to the usefulness of Deep Learning and its ability to model complex decision surfaces. Whatever.

This Game has had >1k iterations. Enough epochs to have allowed its observers to form fairly consistent interpretations of the rules. You know, like common law.

You have chosen to idiosyncratically interpret the original statement of the rules. That’s you choice. But the accepted interpretation of the rules has evolved (or rather, has become more precisely interpreted). And it has the acceptance of those who follow the Game. Here’s an instance: when @ph tried to pass off an old pic of the Homestead/Munhall Carnegie Library as a valid tag, the community rejected it, and he (properly) backed off.

If I understand your most recent claims (about the moon, a vantage point, etc), you are asserting that ephemeral properties of a tag take precedence over persistent ones agreeable to all. I get the philosophical point; but that’s not the history of this Game. You’re always welcome to start you own (as Steven did at one point), but ultimately you have to rely on what the community want to go with. Deal with it.

Since I have the floor, let me share a non-tag with you:

Yes! It’s from this year’s Pittonkatonk festival at the Vet’s Pavilion in Schenley Park. And a shout-out to whoever got BikePgh to set up their bike racks for the event.

What if I had used this pic as a tag?


Steven
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So what is the tag now…is the bike location( bridge, keeping-tabs, trail), the interesting sight (eaglets, moon).

Rule 1 says “Find the tag and get a picture of your bike in the same location”. It’s perhaps a bit unclear if that means the bike should be in the same location as the bike in the earlier photo, or in the same location as the tag. If it means the latter, then we have an additional source of ambiguity: what part of a photo is the tag? (Maybe the tag isn’t that gravestone in the foreground but that hill in the background?) I think it makes sense to resolve the ambiguity by saying the bike should be in the same location (as best as possible) as the bike in the earlier photo.

But even “location” has some ambiguity. Is the location “somewhere on the GAP”? Or “near the nest on the trail”? Or “in that one spot on the trail that can be glimpsed from a specific eagle-cam”? I’d say the second one, in this case, has the appropriate amount of specificity. Similarly, if a tagger’s photo shows his bike on some public steps, you have to find the right set of steps, but you don’t have to position your bike on the same step. The location would be simply “Bigelow Street steps”, not “seventh step”.

So in my view, someone going out on the trail near the eagles and taking a photo with their bike would be sufficient for picking up this tag. No need to climb the tree or use the eaglecam if you don’t want to.

Re: the Pittonkatonk photo. If your bike’s visible in the photo, I think it would be good tag of that location, so a player would need to find those brick walls (not, say, wherever that band is playing next).


The Iguana
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I think the one who sets the tag, would define/approve it–the CREATER DEFINES PURPOSE paradigm. How? If there is any ambiguity, the hint(s) would have to resolve it…by proper “petitioning” of the Creator if one is confused…possibly by bringing a sacrifice (animal, human–preferably virgin). This rule predates the Magna Charta.

This is how it is in Lizardom–very ancient.


The Iguana
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@ahlir, I see you must have been set as the TAG-O_RAMA PRIEST–I missed it when you were consecrated/installed in that position–and the owner of the interpretations…with connection to the ancient ones (back over 1K generations) and the original Creator. I now bow my head in obeyance and supplication and will forthwith will be supplying a sacrifice for your forgiveness and approval (idisosynchratic or otherwise) as I am so new to the game and haven’t paid you proper homage…

..Forgive me for I have sinned to you. I am but a lowly lizard creature…deserving your heel … nah, but the ball of your clippless cleat emblazoned on my body…as a “Scarlet Letter” for all eternity… don’t stop until my chain is bloodied in oil and my helmet is dashed to pieces to Azazel…And then maybe I can be accepted into the tag-o-rama community proper…oh if the sun would shine on my naked unchamoised bottom, then maybe you would understand my shame…I rend my expensive (Lance(d)) jersey in mourning and supplication…oh please accept my atonement and restore my position as in days of old …as a lowly creature of four legs and a tail…allow me to play and gambol on the trail as when a tad-lizard…dining on damsel flies and slugs…

In future I can pass my tags (gettings and settings) to you oh @AHHH(unspeakableOne)Lear at the risk of being Bruced (as I understand it) for approval before posting… or just proceed as so many past generations have and allow you to publicly reprimand and interpret the rules with your omnipotent and wizened comments oh Great Teacher…
Most humbly and shamefaced with grease on my snout,
@The(OneAndOnly)Iguana


Ornoth
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I hesitate to get involved here now that things have gotten personal and so far afield from actually riding, but I’d like to express one opinion.

From Rule 2: Remember, the point of the game is not to make the clues difficult to figure out. It is about riding, not Googling.

If the attitude behind that fragment is still considered valid, I daresay it could/should be extended thus: The point of the game is not to make the tags difficult to reproduce. It’s about riding, not photography.

IMO YMMV etc.


Ahlir
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Is this a pickup?

or are we looking at a Ceci n’est pas un tag ?

Also, priests get ordained not consecrated.
And I am not a priest, nor a troll.


StuInMcCandless
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To cut to the chase here, I’m tired of the drama. Look at the first 1,000 or so tags. Someone takes a picture, maybe drops a useful hint of a sentence or two, and a few hours or a couple days later, someone figures out where that is, and posts a similar photo of the same spot, maybe a different angle or zoom level for clarity.

Can we just go back to the game?


jonawebb
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Yay for the game. No for lengthy posts. Remember the game is about biking and finding cool places in Pittsburgh.
Please, someone pick up the eagle tag and post a new one!


Ahlir
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I’m also tired of the drama.

The tag photo is a snap of the feed posted at http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/hays-bald-eagle-cam/

It is technically not possible to get this tag: the area is protected for the sake of the eagles and the public is not allowed to get near the nest.

I suggest that someone needs to get out to Whitaker and pick the game up from that point.


jonawebb
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You can certainly ride to the eagle viewing area and photograph your bike there. I think that would count as getting the tag. If you have a smartphone with an internet connection and some technical expertise, you could position your bike the way Yale did, and capture a screenshot of the eagle camera, unless it has been repositioned. That would also count.


campV
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You guys are truly ruining a game that at one time years earlier– was tremendous fun and enjoyable ! The rhetoric is crap that no one has time nor patience to endure. Just play the dam game!


Pierce
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*sigh*

I appreciate the novel approach of how the last tag was captured.

Take it easy though. It’s a fun game with about ten people playing? and maybe what, twenty, thirty tops people even look at this forum anymore?

Take it easy. *take it eeeeeasy* – The Eagles


Ahlir
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I agree with @jonawebb’s suggestion.

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