Straight-up list of Pittsburgh idiot cyclists

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StuInMcCandless
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I know a lot of cyclists who smoke. Many of them are on this board. I try not to give them guff about it. They’re big boys and girls now and can read. I hold my contempt for the tobacco companies and their minions, such as local politicians they’ve paid off (so that 14-year-olds can still walk into convenience stores and, wink wink, get that pack their mom sent them to the store for).


stefb
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I find it rude when other cyclists smoke on rides or when stopped on rides. Some people have asthma, and even if they don’t, no one wants to breathe in second hand smoke while they’re trying to exercise. Have some consideration for others.

If people want to smoke, they’re mostly hurting themselves, but they don’t need to hurt other people.


meaculpa
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To NeilMd: re: “…Bike 1 clearly qualifies as an “idiot cyclist”. Sorry @meaculpa, but if that was you, how long you have been riding is irrelevant. I’ve been riding since 1965.”
This “Bike 1” wasn’t me.

Again, I’m sorry for my tone before. I was upset about an unnecessary comment that day from some stranger. I had some music on low, was alert to my surroundings and this guy decided to lecture me treating me like a jerk. What made me seethe also was that he looked familiar, like someone who had given me a look (and snort) of disgust when I passed by him (one bud in).
To me, if I haven’t endangered you, you shouldn’t be snotty and rude.


neilmd
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@meaculpa meaculpa accepted. I’ve done some pretty dumb things.


durishange
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5:30 PM 3/8/2015 After passing through the Convention Center Waterway Walkway and I saw a cyclist sitting on a wall looking a little disheveled. I asked him if he was okay. He said he was a little sore. Then I noticed there wasn’t a bike around him. I asked him where his bike was and he pointed to the river. I looked towards the river and said, ‘huh?”. He told me he was coming down the ramp, saw the steps, because didn’t realize where the path was headed he had to bail from the bike and it went into the river. He told me his son was coming to pick him up. Somewhere at the bottom of the Allegheny is a Giant bicycle.


RustyRed
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I witnessed Giant Bike Guy’s crash and the loss of his bike. I wouldn’t categorize him as an ‘Idiot’ though.

Just *very* unlucky that he fell near the water, went OTB and well, his bike went into the water.
This was his first fall, I’m told.


J Z
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Does anyone know specifically where the Giant went in? I read about another incident on the boards where River Rescue was able to recover the bike.


durishange
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That tunnel way that cuts through the Convention Center where water falls down the side walls. He pointed directly across the walkway towards the water. He was in pretty good spirits considering he lost his bike and he was a bit sore. This happened Tuesday around 5:30, when did the bike get recovered by River Rescue?


RustyRed
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I know where it went in, roughly how far downstream it drifted and so does the owner. I suggested he contact the city to see how he could get assistance to recover the bike.
They may have already recovered it for him, for all I know.

(ripples in the water where the bike had just started sinking)


Swalfoort
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The guy who runs/ran the paddle boat concession at Bradys Run park once retrieved a bike (I think it was a bike) that his son accidently let roll into the river on the opposite side of the Allegheny. This was years ago, but I think he used a long pole to locate the object, and then a long pole with a hook to snare it and pull it up. A day or so had passed between the sinking and the retrieval, so timeframes are comparable.


J Z
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I’ve got an inquiry in with a friend and will report back.


Marko82
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I think a fishing rod with a strong magnet would work well for this. I putzed around with a twenty foot long piece of string yesterday and just barely touched the bottom. So the bike may have drifted quite a bit down stream before stopping. you can then raise it with a heaver rope & hook once you locate it.


gg
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Just wait a couple of months and take a dive in there. People swim in the river all the time. Just wear a mask/goggles so you can see. There is no snow to melt to the north, so this will be an easy spring probably.


Vannevar
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You might ask Sarah Quesen to fetch it for you. (seriously)


Mick
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@gg Just wear a mask/goggles so you can see.

This is fanciful, indeed.

I’ve swum many times in the river. With goggles. You can’t see more than 6 inches in front of your face – and that’s kind of optimistic.

It’s very possible to recover a bike – but I think it would take more resources and effort than it is likely worth.


Mick
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WTF? How is it that your guys are claiming this is a straight up list of idiot cyclist and I DO NOT SEE MY NAME ON EVERY PAGE?

What is WRONG with you people?


J Z
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Hey forum people, if anyone has the contact info for the individual who lost the bike in the river, PM me, or have them PM me. I have a contact they can talk to about possible recovery, maybe, no promises. Hope you’re okay after going OTB, guy.


RustyRed
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I’m afraid I don’t have his contact info.
Maybe he’s lurking and will contact you.


durishange
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Mick, your post made me chuckle. I wonder how many of us have read through the posts, looking for some sort of mention ;-)


J Z
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Any better description of the bike, other than it’s a Giant?


RustyRed
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“Any better description of the bike, other than it’s a Giant?”

No, sorry.
If someone takes the time to recover it, how would they ensure the owner is reunited with it?


J Z
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If, for the sake of argument, not saying it’s going to happen, but if someone takes the time to recover it, it would be “legit” people. Maybe bikepgh can help, in that regard. Still looking into it.


neilmd
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Well it’s in the water…


gg
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“I’ve swum many times in the river. With goggles. You can’t see more than 6 inches in front of your face – and that’s kind of optimistic.”

Depends on a lot of condition issues. If the water is low and slow, the Allegheny can be quite clear. It isn’t as deep as people think in that area, so that is a plus.


Mikhail
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Well, according to Marko — 20 feet. It’s deep enough to block almost 100% of sunlight under the best conditions in Allegheny. :) The best conditions I saw in Allegheny would be about of yard of clear vision. It’s no match for see water where you can see sometimes 20-30 yards.


edronline
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Sometimes when I ride up that side of the Allegheny from point state park I think, “what happens if I have to swerve/I hit ice/etc” and I go flying in the water…


stefb
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If he was on a fat bike, it would have floated.


jonawebb
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Pierce
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“Any better description of the bike, other than it’s a Giant?”

You find more than one in the river?

If Marko is right and it’s 20′ deep, that’s a bit of a dive for a novice I think, more so if you’re down there trying to find a bike a yard at a time

@jz If a dive team gets this bike I will be highly amused and only mildly begrudge the tax dollars used to do it


J Z
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Probably won’t happen if I can’t get the contact info for the owner.


J Z
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3/16/16 16H45 Downtown to Oakland. Blue jersey wearing cat 6 rider on a black road bike, seriously man, why the need to buzz within 5 inches of trail users while passing inaudibly? Guy buzzed me on the commute home with no oncoming trail users, and then I proceed to watch him intentionally buzz a runner in front of me (who was pissed as hell, btw, guy), more cyclists, and more runners, leaving a trail of pissed off people in his wake. Dick move, guy.


Swalfoort
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Water should not be that deep at the convention center. The navigable channel is maintained to a depth of about 11 feet, but the natural level is much shallower.

Tri Anglers at Venture Outdoors might know. I’ll ask.


brother_rebus
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@a FWIW the “suggested speed limit… …for paved trails is 20mph” in Pittsburgh.


chrishent
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Today’s missed connection:

Location: Barriered portion of the West Carson St. sidewalk, just past the Ft. Pitt Bridge

Me: pedestrian headed towards the Duquesne Incline

You: Guy on black brake-less fixie.

You clipped me while trying to go past me. Admittedly, I was wearing headphones so I didn’t hear you coming, but you had plenty of room to pass. I barely felt you clipping me, but you lost control of the bike and hit the barrier. One of your feet got stuck in the velcro clips, so I loosened it up so you could get out. Upon getting the bike upright, I noticed that the front wheel was now perpendicular to the stem. I asked you if you had a wrench, and I promptly used it and straightened your wheel for ya. You were very apologetic throughout, but I wasn’t upset about the whole thing.

Then you mentioned that your bike was a “weird fixie”. At this moment, I couldn’t resist it anymore and immediately told you that your bike wasn’t weird, it just needed a brake so you could stop properly. You said, “no brakes, man! Ever! Why would I put brakes on it?” (I’m paraphrasing now) I then told you that, in addition to helping you stop effectively, state law requires you to have brakes. You repeated your mantra, and at that point I simply patted you on the back, said “good luck, dude” and proceeded to continue my walk towards the incline. Moments later, you wobbly-y passed me again, repeated your moto, and continued to have poor control of your bike. It finally dawned on me that you were probably drunk or high. I gave up at that point.

I hope I don’t encounter you and your fixie and your messenger bag full of spray paint cans ever again


Ahlir
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@chrishent: that was remarkable.

You just encountered an authentic time-traveller!

I never knew that we had a worm-hole in Pittsburgh. Much less expected that it would be somewhere near the Duquesne Incline.

Could you at all tell what year he might have come from?
I cannot image that he would be one of us.


chrishent
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The whole thing was odd but, again, not upsetting. Maybe it helped that he apologized profusely?

Unrelated, saw plenty of idiotic riding today. The highlight was the woman riding a Healthy Ride bike on the Smithfield St. Bridge sidewalk while FaceTime-ing, barely in control of the bike because of what she was doing, and admitting so to the person she was talking to.


Jason-PGH
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Pro-Con:

Pro- lots of people in the Penn Avenue bike lane today when I rode by!
Con- lots of people not looking where they are going and wavering into my lane, swerving back at the last second.

Happened at least 2 times today, both under the Veteran’s Bridge.


chrishent
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To the roadie in full Tinkoff-Saxo kit trying to set a Strava KOM on the Penn Ave cycle track between 10th and 9th, yesterday after 6 pm: this isn’t the place for that.


tenplusone
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Hey all,

Now with the recreational and fair weather riders crawling back out onto two wheels once more, let us take this opportunity to educate those open to such.

Obviously there will be those who stubbornly stick to their ways. ex: @chrishent‘s fixie dude encounter, but many are looking for any guidance and advice from experienced riders.

Two bad cyclist stories from yesterday, both occurred in Downtown.

1) Larger dude with giant hair riding some old MTB. I’ve seen him around a lot, usually has a bluetooth speaker mounted and cranked. He was weaving in and out of pedestrians at the fountain in market square and traveling at a generally unacceptable rate of speed in that heavy foot traffic area. He then tried to cross 4th Ave while dodging some pedestrians using the ped walkway, misjudged the curb, clipped it, and went down. You need to be more careful dude. You were like 2 feet from taking two innocent people with you. If you want to show off, hit the track.

2) Dude riding sidewalk parallel to Penn Ave bike lane. I’m traveling towards the strip, around rush hour. Group of pedestrians jaywalking across penn, I slow down. This guy, in casual button up, jeans, headphones, riding some old BSO, near wipes out trying to jump off the curb into the bike lane and has to jack the brakes to avoid hitting me(i’m stopped waiting for peds) and the peds.

We need to help spread the word that the sidewalks are nowhere to ride, except in very specific circumstances.


Benzo
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Yeah, I see lots of folks on BSOs in bloomfield riding on the sidwalks on liberty ave. I’m like WTF? they have a bike lane right there!

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