Spring riding conditions report

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StuInMcCandless
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You do know about the four Three Rivers racks on Forbes, right?


chinston
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neilmd, two days ago, the City-County Building just got two new sets of racks under the portico.


neilmd
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Oh yea!


neilmd
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Is there any prospect for getting Irvine St in Hazelwood re-striped to be 1 lane in both directions? It is one line toward Hazelwood Ave and 2 lanes toward Greenfield Ave, and that seems dumb. I assume that as long as the AlMonO site is under development we won’t have a bike trail over there, and going along the single lane toward Hazelwood is just annoying. It is made more unpleasant by a large fraction of oncoming traffic using their left lane despite minimal traffic in their right lane. It seems ripe for at least a temporary bike lane (I don’t know how the bridge shutdown will affect traffic on Irvine, though).

I suspect that the PA 885 designation means that it is under control of PennDOT, which probably answers my question right there.


Ahlir
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re Irvine: I really dislike that street (though early Sunday mornings seem ok). I sincerely doubt that it will be possible to make it 2-lane.
On the other hand maybe they should just start enforcing the &^%$! speed limit? Right away it becomes a cash-positive proposition. Maybe they could earmark the take for bike infrastructure… he dreams.


neilmd
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I was passed today on Irvine by a van pulling a trailer that was MUCH wider than the van today (one of those car tow things I believe). That was … exhilarating.


Ahlir
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And while we’re on this topic: the MongAlOh (whatever…) plan I originally read specified that 2nd would be the main thoroughfare from Greenfield to Hazelwood streets.

This seems ill-advised. Irvine is hemmed by a hill, rail tracks and industrial properties; 2nd is supposed to be residential and commercial. Why make the latter the zoom-through street?

Then there’s that rail line that 2nd will have to cross. Or maybe they’ll just raze that whole south Hazelwood neighborhood and build a flyover.

Oh, wait. I get it.
Irvine becomes a bike boulevard!
But why didn’t they tell us?


neilmd
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Logan is currently closed; sewer cave in or something like that about half way up, barriers at base. Someone should post when it is open again and look out for (more) uneven surface on the way up.


paulheckbert
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Re ALMONO, Irvine St, and Second Ave, I replied in one of the ALMONO threads.


J Z
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Encountered City of Pgh DPW sweeper truck on EFT/Jail Trail this morning. That, in itself, is awesome.

Smithfield inbound is down to one lane between Third and Fourth, due to that water main break from yesterday. Expect congestion.


helen s
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I encountered that sweeper also. Unfortunately it was a the end where the trail is bordered by a guard rail and a drop into large rocks. The guy did appear he was going to stop to give me a space to get by until the last minute when I stopped right in front of him where I was able to squeeze by at the very end of the rocks on my left.
I was still appreciative of the trail being swept.


rainbow dog
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A fallen tree on the North Shore Trail, right by the old jail. It’s leaning across the trail and I had to dismount to walk under it. It’s still rooted but completely blown over by last night’s storm. I don’t think it can be straightened, but I am no expert. Would definitely need power tools to cut it down.


Benzo
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@rainbow_dog – Can you submit a 311 ticket for this since you know the location?


rainbow dog
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Done.


chrishent
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On my way to work today, I went through the McKees Rocks bridge downstream sidewalk, which inexplicably had “sidewalk closed” barriers at both ends. I got around them, going over the jersey barriers, and rode the sidewalk, which was in OK shape. My guess is that the barriers are PennDOT’s doing, so to whom should I bring this up to?

Other than that, it was pleasant morning to ride. Stopped at the North Side commuter cafe and got me some goodies before heading off to Neville Island. Hope everyone had a good ride this morning!


5Matt
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I guess you missed my threads where we discussed and then cleaned the other side. Pen dot closed the side you were on, good luck getting it taken care of.


chrishent
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@5matt, I did see your thread and, for what it’s worth, I would’ve helped out had I not been out of town that weekend. In any case, I had not realized that the downstream sidewalk was “closed” (this should give you an idea on how often I ride in this direction) and wanted to communicate this.


StuInMcCandless
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Those signs have been there since the 2009 rebuild. I do not see why they are still there. There is nothing broken AFAICT, and it’s been years since anybody did any work on them. They’re filled with crud, true, just as the upstream sidewalk was until a few weeks ago, but I think they just forgot to take the signs with them five years ago.


5Matt
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When I was trying to get penndot to clean the sidewalks, Lou Rizzi (sp?) told me they closed that side because of structural damage, it may not be visible from the top. Chrishent, I wasn’t giving grief for not helping, just pointing out that the other side is in much better condition although I think we may need to revisit it.


StuInMcCandless
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The upstream sidewalk used to have major structural damage for a very long time, 10 years or more, and was unusable. All bridges are supposed to be inspected every two years, IIRC. But these signs have just been sitting there for five years, the busted upstream sidewalk is fine, and the downstream sidewalk seems OK on the surface. I find it hard to believe there is major work to be done on a bridge that just got overhauled in 2009.

So, either come up with a recent inspection or inspect it again, and then remove or re-erect the barriers, as appropriate.


chrishent
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Informal bike count made while I was riding eastbound from the Hot Metal Bridge to Costco around 10:45 am: 117 cyclists headed towards Pittsburgh.

I love seeing that.


Marko82
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The GAP was definitely popular yesterday. I rode out past Roundbottom with a friend yesterday and every parking lot along the way was completely full.


J Z
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OT, speaking of Roundbottom, typically when we do family bike camping, we camp at Cedar Creek. This is fine, albeit typically noisy. What’s the camping at Roundbottom like? Seems like it would be a bit more quiet, as it seems to be more difficult to access via vehicles. When I’ve rode past, it seems more tranquil.


J Z
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5/28/15 Advisory: TreePgh was in the process of doing some work on EFT/Jail Trail this morning, including having a front end loader on the trail between Bates & Birmingham Bridge. Take care in that area. Puts into context that full sized dump truck I saw moving down EFT yesterday around lunch.


emma
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JZ, Roundbottom is quieter in the humans aspect generally (I have encountered some folks who rolled up late with a case of beer and a radio but that was just once). But it’s probably even a little bit noisier as far as the trains go, since at Roundbottom, you’re RIGHT on the river, no trees blocking the sound at all.


neilmd
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A few street condition updates:

1. Beechwood just um, let’s say east of Browns Hill Road (giving directions on Beechwood is always interesting) is in the process of being resurfaced, consistent with the city repaving plan. This is very good news but be careful during the work. Right now two sections have had the old pavement milled, one leaving the old shoulder intact and one the full width. The transitions are quite abrupt so be prepared to hop or take them slowly.

2. Something heavy slid down Eleanor while trying not to for about 30′ near the base at Holt. It took out a fair bit of pavement, so if you really want to you can relive the glory days when Eleanor was cobbles for a few feet. That must have really focused the mind. There is a narrow strip of asphalt still intact near the right edge of the street, though there is also a fair bit of junk in the road because of the skid. It almost looks like a dumpster slid down the street.

3. There is also a section of Sycamore that is getting worse and worse a bit before the switchback. It has been marked with spray paint, so my guess is that you will find a road crew out there doing some spot resurfacing sometime soon.


stefb
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I think a garbage truck slid down Eleanor.


Vannevar
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Roundbottom has zero cellphone coverage – which is OK, but if you’ve promised somebody a call that you’re in safe for the night, you’re going to have to make it well before Roundbottom.


neilmd
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To add to my list, High St in Etna has been milled down to dirt and gravel on top of cobblestones. I did not find that pleasant.


StuInMcCandless
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Let’s hope it gets some decent pavement before Dirty Dozen.


J Z
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@emma & @vannevar thanks for the info, I think we’ll give it a shot to see what it’s like.


jonawebb
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Forbes is milled between Margaret Morrison and Schenley Park.


rainbow dog
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Mulberries are in season. The ones on EFT are big and juicy but I am weary about eating them considering they are right next to the highway. The ones at the end of the North Shore Trail by the old penitentiary are getting ripe but are tricky to get to.


StuInMcCandless
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If anyone really wants mulberries, I have a couple of trees. They’re on a slope, so if I want to gather any berries, I put down some old sheets.


Mick
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I had a mulberry tree in my old yard that was so productive we had to clean the sidewalk with a snow shovel.


J Z
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6/8/15 8AM Tree partially down on EFT/Jail Trail between Birmingham Bridge and Second Ave parking lot across half of the inbound side of the trail. Already been 311’ed.


J Z
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Tree removed.


J Z
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6/9/15 12PM Work being done on the South Side trail at the new South Side Works marina. Posted “no bicycles past this point” on both sides of that new “elevator?” with no bypass. Guys jackhammering were kind enough to allow us to pass.


Jamin
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J Z, From my vague memory of rolling through there yesterday, I believe the “no bicycles past this point” only refers to the parking lot. There are “bike route” signs (?) directing people to the sidewalk for that little portion.


chrishent
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Went down Williams St in Mt. Washington for the first time today. Aside from the crappy pavement, there is a lot of loose gravel along the entire descent to Arlington Ave. Proceed with caution.

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