Penn Ave bike lane

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WillB
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@rustyred – I think you were right behind me. I took a picture and tweeted it out too. 311 replied and said that it wasn’t the city but some utility company and that they would have it moved. It was gone this morning, so that was nice.


RustyRed
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“@rustyred – I think you were right behind me”

If you were wearing Ibex and have an orange pannier, then yes, that was me.

I also encountered a film crew hunkered down in the Clemente bike lane that morning, I was leery to approach a couple of hipsters crouching in the bike lane.

film crew


WillB
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yep that was me.


jonawebb
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Today is cargo bike & trailer day on the Penn Ave Bike Lanes:


edmonds59
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Man I need to remember the date on Skirts and Dresses day. Gonna hafta hit the Goodwill.


ErinK
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@rustyred – Off topic, but what camera are you pulling those ride photos from? It looks pretty awesome.


RustyRed
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@erink those are from a Contour Roam. They no longer make/support them.


RustyRed
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Hey, the cops are doing a great job of keeping cars from parking in the bike lane connector on 6th ave!

cops in bike lane


The Iguana
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I wonder if its the same guys I caught there on April 6:
https://plus.google.com/photos?hl=EN&pid=6134837100948209618&oid=112059919652158167006


chrishent
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Didn’t see these this morning but saw them coming back in:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/68912815@N04/shares/1P10P3

The 6th St bike has been bollared. I don’t think this was the original plan, otherwise they would’ve been put in earlier. While this is certainly appreciated, it’s sad that it had to come to this. All because people were not able to respect a simple “No parking” sign


jonawebb
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This is on the main page, but it bears repeating: on bike to work day, actual count showed more than one in four vehicles during commuting hours were bikes. Wow.


StuInMcCandless
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Bollard smooshing!

From Friday night’s Flock ride. A high point of the evening, for certain.


PghDragonMan
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This why bike lanes on one side of the street are unsafe. You are asking cyclists to ride head on in traffic and cars do not expcect them. Two lanes are needed, one on each side of the street (if it is a two direction street) with bicycle traffic traveling in the same direction as car traffic. Personally, I avoid the Penn Ave cycle lane when riding downtown. I’d rather ride one or two streets out of my way so I can travel with the traffic.


buffalo buffalo
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If there had been bike lanes on both sides of the street, he would’ve hit both sets of bollards. If there had been cars in the northbound lane, he would’ve hit them, or forced them out of his way, just as he did the first riders in the lane.

This is a demonstration of why 53′ trailers are inappropriate for Downtown streets, not bike lanes.


StuInMcCandless
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I’m impressed he managed to make the turn without taking out the parked FedEx truck. And it is similarly impressive that these things pop right back up like that after getting crushed by a tractor-trailer.

FWIW, I sent the video link to Kristen Saunders, too. I figure that she would want to see them in action.


erok
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more graphics here: http://bikepgh.org/2015/06/04/city-bike-counter-data-shows-more-than-24000-trips-in-may-on-penn-avenue-protected-bike-lanes/

May 15 was bike to work day, and we found that 26% of all traffic was bicycle traffic, in the morning commute, 7-9:30am. B2wd didn’t really see that large of an uptick in daily ridership


mjacobPGH
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So, if people claim that Open Streets skewed it, take about 1400 off the count since a regular weekend day would have around 800 and were still left with nearly 23,000 trips which comes out to nearly 700-750 trips a day. Also, this was done in partnership with the Pittsburgh Downtown Partnership who I would think has little reason to skew the numbers in any way.


J Z
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Huh. Ride of Silence on the 20th didn’t skew the numbers. That looks like a lot of usage during the week, honestly, probably more than I would have expected. That “commuter pattern” is a cool find, as well.

Is there similar data for EFT/Jail Trail and the other local segments of Three Rivers Heritage trail?


erok
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the numbers aren’t skewed. if anything, they are less due to not using the bike lane, like on the underwear ride. i’d say only a fraction of the people on the undie ride rode in the bike lane. i also wonder what happens when two people riding side by side hit the counter at the same time


chrishent
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“I also wonder what happens when two people riding side by side hit the counter at the same time”

I’ve been known for slowing down or speeding up when riding two abreast on the bike lane to ensure my bike is counted separately by the counter ;-)


erok
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haha. i do the same thing.


StuInMcCandless
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I wonder what it does with the single bump from a unicycle hitting it, as I did several times on Sunday.


J Z
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+1 to trying to ensure I’m counted by the counters by slowing/speeding up on Penn.


jonawebb
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One nice thing — all the comments that say, “I don’t believe it. Those numbers are inflated. PDP is a corrupt organization beholden to the Peduto administration,” imply the bike lanes are a success. Otherwise the comments would be, “Ha! You see, no one is using them!”


The Iguana
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It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon to figure out the inflation. A little arithmetic:
2 cables per interaction X 2 tires per bike = 4 hits/trip

Clearly, some software guy was paid off to forget the
/4
in the code. And we know how corruptible software people are…worse that bikers….


StuInMcCandless
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OK, honest question. Cyclist “A”, starting at 6th and rolling to 16th, would hit all the strips. How does that get counted, vs Cyclist “B”, starting at the Greyhound Station and rolling to 16th, and only hitting one set of strips?


paulheckbert
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@iguana: Excuse me if this is too much for your reptilian brain (-: I imagine that the bike counter people have already taken such obvious issues into account. Is there any evidence that the numbers are inflated by a factor of 2 or 4?


The Iguana
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@paulheckbert You’ve got a good imagination. Is there any evidence that they did take it into account…And as the astute @stuinmccandless points out it may be inflated by another factor of (up to) 3… …that gives us about 2000 trips for the month…and I did about 500 of them scampering back-and-forth dining on insects and leftovers from the restaurants, the convention center, and the strip…


Ahlir
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People, people, this is so easily resolved.

I suggest than someone truly invested in this issue park themselves at one of the installations, for a day (ie 24 hrs), and count the traffics. I would recommend a 3-clicker counter so you can get inbound/ outbound/ car counts. We can then check these against the reported counts and compute the agreement (κ). Then we will know for sure. Well, to make legit we should probably get one of those LetterToTheEditor farts to show up and do a count as well. Maybe do it for a complete week, just to be sure.

I would also suggest bringing some sandwiches and a comfortable chair. This is absolutely publishable, somewhere.


Mick
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Well, to make legit we should probably get one of those LetterToTheEditor farts to show up and do a count as well

The only way to get one of those guys offa their couch is to put a cold beer just out of reach, so they have to heave the lard up our of their seat to get it.


StuInMcCandless
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Can we just point a camera at the bike lane and hook it to a recorder, then play it back at some speed and count people? It would take a lot less human time than having someone stand there all day.


chrishent
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Such a camera already exists:

http://www.trustarts.org/about/webcam/


Ahlir
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Indeed a camera is better solution. But the suggestion was more intended for committed participants in this never-ending Bike Lane battle of attrition.

I personally would rather just wait a couple of months until letters show up complaining about how you never can find a share-bike when you need it, and why weren’t they installed in some obvious location or other.

Later on we can have letters complaining about bicycle traffic jams and by what right do cars get to have so much space on streets.


chrishent
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That quirky bike rack on Penn, between 8th and 9th, is finally getting some use:

That odd bike rack on Penn Ave getting some love


Benzo
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Still hate that bike rack, but at least folks are using it (and by the looks of it, doing a pretty good job of using u-locks consistently).


chrishent
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June report for the Penn Ave cycle track is up:

http://www.envisiondowntown.com/new-blog/2015/7/6/penn-avenue-bike-lane-june-traffic-report

Overall, ridership was sligthly down when compared to May, but given the weather we had, this was to be expected. That last weekend illustrates this perfectly. It basically rained all day on that Saturday, and the next day’s OpenStreetsPGH was significantly affected as well, as the numbers were cut in half. Though the latter may also be because people didn’t see the point of riding on the cycle track when they had the rest of the street available.


buffalo buffalo
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Wettest June in 20 years, nearly identical ridership in the outer section.

There were a couple events that closed Penn in the Cultural District; I wonder if that’s why the 600-block counter recorded so many fewer riders than the 1200 (and have left a comment asking if that’s so)…


Marko82
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I noticed the counter in the 600 block was partially pulled up (damaged) last night when I went through. Who do we report this to?


chrishent
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@buffalo, don’t get me wrong, I still think the numbers are good, especially considering the weather we had. I guess I didn’t clarify that numbers were “slightly” down. I’ve edited this in my original post

Regarding the 600 block, there was a period for about a week or so that they were doing utility work right on the section were the counter is. Granted, this work was done mostly at night, but it surely lost a few trips because of this.

A drier July and a fully rolled out Healthy Ride should see these numbers go up.


Marko82
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I just found this blog post from a local lawyer-cyclists that talks about mandatory use of bike lanes. It’s a good read.

http://offthefrontcycling.com/now-that-weve-built-it-are-they-legally-obligated-to-come/

What got me looking was an encounter I had on the road next to the trail by the Duquesne incline over the weekend. An SUV crossed the yellow line and drove in the wrong lane to pass a long line of stopped vehicles which were turning into the parking lot. We had a brief standoff, but apparently it was my fault because I wasn’t using the bike lane.

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